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Genco Shipping (GNK) Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

The Motley Fool·11/05/2026 19:31:20
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DATE

Thursday, Nov. 5, 2026

CALL PARTICIPANTS

  • Chairman and Chief Executive Officer - John Wobensmith
  • Chief Financial Officer - Peter Allen
  • Dry Bulk Market Analyst - Michael Orr

TAKEAWAYS

  • Net Income -- $38 million, or $0.85 per diluted share.
  • Adjusted EBITDA -- $68.1 million, an increase of 214% versus last year driven by higher charter rates and fleet growth.
  • Time Charter Equivalent (TCE) Rate -- $27,539 per day, representing a 73% increase compared to the third quarter of 2025.
  • Q4 TCE to Date -- $30,102 per day for 66% of available days, on pace for the highest level since the fourth quarter of 2021.
  • Quarterly Dividend -- $1.05 per share, a record for the company and a 600% increase on a year-over-year basis.
  • Total Available Liquidity -- $394.6 million, consisting of $94.6 million in cash and $300 million in undrawn revolver capacity.
  • Net Loan-to-Value -- 18%, calculated using debt outstanding less cash relative to estimated fleet market values as of Oct. 15, 2026.
  • Cash Flow Break-even Rate -- $10,500 per vessel per day, supporting high earnings power in the current rate environment.
  • Fleet Investment -- $408 million deployed into Newcastlemax and Capesize vessels since the fourth quarter of 2023.
  • Voyage Revenues -- $151.9 million, compared to $79.9 million in the third quarter of 2025.
  • Vessel Operating Expenses -- $27.5 million, or $6,855 per vessel per day, reflecting higher crew and insurance costs.
  • Fleet Utilization -- 98.2% for the third quarter, as the company maximized deployment in a strong freight market.
  • Operating Cash Flow -- $66 million, a 200% increase compared to the third quarter of 2025.
  • China Iron Ore Imports -- Increased 4% in the year to date, driven by seaborne demand and a reduction in domestic output.
  • Australian Iron Ore Exports -- Rose 3% year over year, while Brazilian volumes set a record high in June 2026 before softening.
  • Simandou Project Shipments -- 21 million tons shipped in the year to date, with a record 5.3 million tons shipped in October 2026.
  • Global Fleet Age -- 13 years old on average, the highest level since 2010, increasing the potential for vessel scrapping.
  • Full-Year Dividend Projection -- Over $3.20 per share based on current market fixtures and forward curves.
  • Baltic Capesize 180 Index -- Averaged over $41,000 per day in the third quarter, the highest quarterly mark since 2021.
  • Total Fleet Capacity -- 44 vessels totaling approximately 5,117,000 deadweight tons.
  • Debt Repayment -- Management drew down $50 million from the revolver in the third quarter to fund an acquisition but has no mandatory debt amortization.
  • Operational Leverage -- Every $1,000 fleet-wide TCE increase translates to $0.36 per share of incremental earnings capacity.
  • West African Bauxite Exports -- These volumes have supported the Atlantic Basin Capesize market, with long-haul routes extending trading distances.

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RISKS

  • Wobensmith stated, "Brazilian volumes, after setting a record high in June, have softened in recent months due to a combination of atypical wet weather conditions and high fuel and freight costs impacting smaller Brazilian miners," noting a specific challenge to Atlantic Basin supply.

SUMMARY

Genco Shipping & Trading Limited (NYSE:GNK) reported third-quarter results that management attributed to the company's Comprehensive Value Strategy and the acquisition of premium earning assets. Management stated that the company achieved its highest quarterly dividend and Time Charter Equivalent rate since 2022, driven by a dry bulk market and increased operating leverage. The company reported adjusted EBITDA of $68.1 million and maintained a cash flow break-even rate of $10,500 per day. According to the company, fleet renewal remains a priority, with $408 million invested in larger vessels since 2023 to capitalize on strengthening freight rates and extended ton miles across the Atlantic and Pacific basins.

  • CEO Wobensmith stated, "Every $1,000 fleet-wide TCE increase equates to $0.36 per share of incremental earnings and dividend capacity," highlighting the company's high operating leverage.
  • The company took delivery of the Genco Volunteer, a 2019-built scrubber-fitted Capesize vessel, on Aug. 12, 2026, and immediately deployed it into the spot market.
  • Management reported that 12% of the global dry bulk fleet is now 20 years or older, which suggests a significant pool of scrapping candidates that matches the current global order book of 16%.
  • Wobensmith noted that India and Vietnam are increasingly importing high-quality seaborne iron ore as they expand steel production and move away from lower-quality domestic supply.
  • The company reported $394.6 million of total liquidity and maintains a net loan-to-value ratio of 18%, providing flexibility for countercyclical fleet growth or further debt paydowns.
  • Market Analyst Orr noted that geopolitical tensions and safety concerns in China have supported the coal trade, leading to long-haul routes from the U.S. and Colombia to Asia.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

  • TCE (Time Charter Equivalent): A shipping industry measure used to calculate the average daily revenue performance of a vessel after deducting voyage expenses.
  • Capesize: Large dry bulk carriers, often 180,000 deadweight tons or larger, primarily used to transport iron ore and coal.
  • Newcastlemax: A specific class of Capesize vessel with dimensions designed to maximize the capacity of the Port of Newcastle in Australia.
  • Ultramax and Supramax: Mid-sized dry bulk carriers used for minor bulk commodities like grains, steel products, and bauxite.
  • FFA (Forward Freight Agreement): Financial derivatives used by shipping companies and traders to hedge against or speculate on future freight rates.
  • Net Loan-to-Value (LTV): A financial metric that compares the company's net debt to the total market value of its fleet.
  • Simandou: A large-scale iron ore project in Guinea that is expected to significantly increase global iron ore supply and Capesize demand.
  • Ton Miles: A measure of shipping demand that accounts for both the weight of the cargo and the distance it is transported.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Genco Shipping & Trading Limited Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call and Presentation. Before we begin, please note that there will be a slide presentation accompanying today's conference call. That presentation can be obtained through Genco's website at www.gencoshipping.com. To inform everyone, today's conference is being recorded and is now being webcast at the company's website, www.gencoshipping.com. We will conduct a question-and-answer session after the opening remarks. Instructions will follow at that time. A webcast replay will also be available via the link provided in today's press release, as well as on the company's website. At this time, I will now turn the conference over to the company. Please go ahead.

Peter Allen: Good morning. Before we begin our presentation, I note that in this conference call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements use words such as anticipate, budget, estimate, expect, project, intend, plan, believe, in other words, in terms of similar meaning in connection with the discussion of potential future events, circumstances, or future operating or financial performance. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and observations.

For discussion of factors that could cause results to differ, please see the company's press release that was issued yesterday, the materials relating to this call posted on the company's website, and the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including, without limitation, the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2025, and the company's reports on Form 10-Q and Form 8-K subsequently filed with the SEC. At this time, I would like to introduce John Wobensmith, Chairman and CEO of Genco Shipping & Trading Limited.

John Wobensmith: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Genco's Third Quarter 2026 Conference Call. I will begin today's call by reviewing our Q3 2026 highlights and dividend outlook for the remainder of the year. We will then provide additional details on our financial results, as well as an update on the industry's current fundamentals before opening the call up for questions. For additional information, please also refer to our earnings presentation posted on our website. Beginning on slide five, during the third quarter, we continued to make meaningful progress executing our Comprehensive Value Strategy, which is generating compelling value and returns for shareholders.

Through the execution of our well-defined capital allocation strategy, we have successfully transformed Genco into a low-leverage, high-dividend company supported by a fleet of premium earning assets, industry low break-even levels, and a leading commercial operating platform. Since implementing our Comprehensive Value Strategy in 2021, we have invested $557 million in high-specification modern vessels. We have also distributed nearly $10 per share in dividends, or approximately 40% of the current share price, while paying down debt, reducing our cash flow break-even rate, and growing and renewing our fleet. The strength of Genco's Comprehensive Value Strategy was evident in Q3, as we once again capitalized on a robust dry bulk market to generate strong earnings and dividends for shareholders.

Notably, strong results in the third quarter reflect our well-timed Capesize acquisitions that have significantly increased our earnings power and dividend capacity. During Q3, we took delivery of our third premium earning vessel this year, the Genco Volunteer, a 2019-built Capesize vessel. Upon delivery in mid-August, we immediately deployed the Volunteer in the strong Capesize spot market, earning a meaningful premium to the Baltic Capesize Index. Following this latest acquisition, our total investment in premium earning Capesize and Newcastlemax vessels since 2023 stands at $408 million, with asset values having risen significantly since these purchases, as Capesizes have outperformed all other dry bulk sectors, generating strong returns.

In the third quarter, we drew on our significant operating leverage and earnings power to generate strong cash flow. Specifically in Q3, we achieved our highest quarterly TCE rate since 2022, resulting in adjusted EBITDA of nearly $70 million. We also benefited from our focus on increasing our dividend capacity, declaring a Q3 dividend of $1.05 per share, the highest quarterly dividend per share in Genco's 20+ year history. Our Q3 dividend represents a 31% increase compared to Q2 2026 and a 600% increase on a year-over-year basis. It also marks our 29th consecutive quarterly dividend paid to shareholders, the longest uninterrupted period in our dry bulk peer group.

As depicted on slides six and seven, we achieved multi-year highs for the Q3 dividend, TCE, and EBITDA, and expect to continue to generate strong results for shareholders in Q4 and beyond. Based on our strong Q4 fixtures to date and assuming the current FFA curve for the balance of the year, we reiterate that the fourth quarter dividend is projected to be over $1 per share for the second consecutive quarter. This would bring our projected full-year dividend to over $3.20 per share. Turning to slide eight, Genco continues to maintain industry-leading corporate governance, which has underpinned our shareholder-focused outperformance.

We maintain a strong and majority independent board of directors, and we are the only U.S.-listed dry bulk shipping company with no related party transactions. Moving to slide nine, Genco has one of the lowest cash flow break-even levels in our peer group, which supports our strong earnings power. This is directly related to our low net loan-to-value, as well as having no mandatory debt amortization. In addition to significantly increasing our TCE on a year-over-year basis during each quarter this year, we continue to markedly exceed our low cash flow break-even rate. Specifically, our Q4 TCE to date of over $30,000 per day is nearly $20,000 per day above our cash flow break-even rate.

On slide 10, we highlight the strategic benefits of our balanced fleet composition. Following the Cape delivery in August, we own a fleet of 20 Capesize and Newcastlemax vessels, as well as 24 Ultramax and Supramax vessels. Importantly, we continue to balance the upside potential of the Capesize sector along with the steadier earnings profile of the minor bulk ships. On a vessel ownership basis, our splits are 45% Capes and 55% Ultra/Supras. However, when viewed on a net revenue basis over the last two years, we are over 50% weighted towards Capesize vessels, putting us in a unique position in our peer group to benefit from the strengthening freight rate environment.

On slide 11, we highlight the current operating leverage provided by our fleet of 44 vessels. Every $1,000 fleet-wide TCE increase equates to $0.36 per share of incremental earnings and dividend capacity, while every $5,000 increase in TCE for our 20 Newcastlemax and Capesize vessels equates to an incremental $0.81 per share. Turning to slide 12, we also continue to balance our high operating leverage with our low financial leverage, providing us with flexibility to operate across various freight market conditions. In stronger markets, we generate meaningful cash flow with our industry-low break-even rate and scalable fleet. In market downturns, Genco's low financial leverage and undrawn revolver capacity enable us to pursue countercyclical growth opportunities.

Importantly, Genco remains well-positioned to continue to drive value and returns for our shareholders and play offense in any type of dry bulk market. I will now turn the call over to Peter Allen, our Chief Financial Officer.

Peter Allen: Thank you, John. On slides 14 through 16, we highlight our strong third-quarter financial results, which are driven by our sizable operating leverage, growing fleet, and industry-low break-even levels. For the third quarter, Genco recorded net income of $38 million, or $0.87 and $0.85 basic and diluted earnings per share. Adjusted net income was $39.2 million, or $0.89 and $0.88 basic and diluted earnings per share, excluding other operating expenses of $0.4 million, impairment on vessel assets of $0.6 million, and an unrealized fuel loss of $0.2 million. Adjusted EBITDA for Q3 totaled $68.1 million, an increase of over 200% year-over-year.

This was led by a time charter equivalent rate of $27,539 per day, which rose by 73% as compared to Q3 2025. Notably, our cost structure was similar on a year-over-year basis, highlighting the operating leverage inherent in our fleet. We also continue to achieve strong fleet-wide utilization rates of over 98% as we maximize utilization in strong freight rate environments. Our adjusted EBITDA for the first nine months of 2026 totaled $161.1 million, which is approximately 270% higher year-over-year, already well above the full-year 2025 levels, which puts us on pace for 2026 to be our highest earnings year since 2021. We continue to generate meaningful cash flow and maintain significant financial flexibility.

Our cash and debt positions as of September 30, 2026, were $95 million and $380 million respectively. Our undrawn revolver availability at quarter end was $300 million, bringing our total available liquidity to nearly $400 million. With our full revolving credit facility structure, we plan to continue to actively manage our cash and debt positions to reduce interest expense while maintaining access to capital to act on growth opportunities. We view our strong balance sheet as a core component of our Comprehensive Value Strategy and a strategic asset that enables us to act quickly and decisively, as we have demonstrated in recent years with our accretive growth initiatives.

As outlined on slide 17, we believe Genco is in an advantageous position with a fleet of 44 high-quality, modern dry bulk vessels, significant operating leverage, combined with low financial leverage, a $10,500 cash flow break-even rate, and $300 million of undrawn revolver availability, we provide an attractive risk-reward balance for shareholders. Furthermore, we continue to provide shareholders with compelling quarterly dividends. Our dividend policy targets a distribution based on 100% of operating cash flow, less a voluntary reserve, as described on slide 18. In the third quarter, our board declared a record dividend of $1.05 per share, which equates to an annualized dividend yield of 17% based on the current share price.

The formula-based dividend is calculated on an operating cash flow of $66 million and a quarterly reserve of $19.5 million. Operating cash flow in Q3 increased by 20% relative to Q2 and rose by over 200% on a year-over-year basis, which flowed through to the dividend. Looking ahead to Q4, we currently have 66% of owned available days fixed at a rate of approximately $30,100 per day, as compared to our anticipated cash flow break-even rate, excluding dry docking-related CapEx of approximately $10,500 per vessel per day. Importantly, Q4 TCE is on pace to increase by nearly 70% year-over-year and reach our highest level since Q4 2021.

As a result, we project another dividend of over $1 per share in Q4 2026 to close out a strong year for Genco. I will now turn the call over to Michael Orr, our dry bulk market analyst, to discuss the industry current landscape.

Michael Orr: Thank you, Peter. Beginning on slide 20, during the third quarter of 2026, freight rates continued to rise following a strong first half of the year. Specifically, the Baltic Capesize 180 Index averaged over $41,000 per day in Q3, the highest quarterly level since 2021, while the Baltic Supramax Index averaged over $19,000 per day, the highest mark since 2022. We believe the strong dry bulk earnings environment is due to a continued solid iron ore trade, significant growth in bauxite exports, and a reemergence of the coal trade. These demand-side catalysts have extended trading distances, accentuating the existing capacity constraints of the dry bulk fleet. Turning to slide 21, China continues to import large volumes of iron ore.

Specifically, China's iron ore imports in the year to date have increased by 4%. Australian iron ore exports remain firm, having increased by 3% year-over-year, while Brazilian volumes, after setting a record high in June, have softened in recent months due to a combination of atypical wet weather conditions and high fuel and freight costs impacting smaller Brazilian miners. Historically, Brazilian exports are approximately 20% higher in the second half as compared to the first half of the year. Capesize vessels in the Atlantic Basin have also been supported by strong bauxite exports originating in West Africa, as highlighted on slide 22 and 23.

Furthermore, Simandou iron ore exports have steadily grown and appear to be ahead of schedule, with 21 million tons shipped in the year to date and a record of 5.3 million tons shipped in October. Going forward, given the scale of the expected growth projects from Simandou on the iron ore side, as well as continued iron ore growth from Vale in Brazil and bauxite out of West Africa, these incremental volumes could absorb potentially over 200 Capesize vessels. Supply constraints and newbuilding activity, combined with added long-haul trading distances, are two key catalysts for the sector. Furthermore, as detailed on slide 24, with the escalation of geopolitical tensions in recent months, coal demand has been strong.

A confluence of events have supported the coal trade, including the reduction of LNG capacity, gas-to-coal switching in certain Asian economies, a reduction of domestic coal output in China due to safety concerns, and El Niño. Notably, we have seen an increase in coal cargoes originating from the U.S. and Colombia with Asian destinations. These long-haul trade routes once again further stretch the dry bulk fleet. On slide 25, we highlight the global grain trade. We are currently in North American grain season, in which we typically see increased soybean shipments from the U.S. to China. China has already increased its purchases of U.S. soybeans, with the year-to-date imports already exceeding all of last year. Peak U.S.

Gulf shipments, coupled with potential Panama Canal capacity constraints due to El Niño, could result in more dry bulk vessels rerouting, extending ton miles and increasing fleet-wide inefficiencies. In terms of newbuilding deliveries in the year to date, as outlined on slide 26, net fleet growth in the first nine months of 2026 was 3.9%, split between 2% net fleet growth for Capesizes and 3%-6% net fleet growth for Panamaxes down to Handysize. Additionally, as scrapping has remained low in recent years, the age of the global fleet has risen to 13 years old, the highest average age of the dry bulk fleet since 2010.

This has increased the pool of potential scrapping candidates, as 12% of the on-the-water fleet is 20 years or older, which is close to the global dry bulk order book as a percentage of the fleet of 16%. This implies net replacement tonnage over time as opposed to any material net fleet growth. While we expect volatility in the freight market to persist, the foundation of a low supply growth picture provides a solid basis for a positive view of the dry bulk market going forward. I'll now turn it back over to John to conclude the call.

John Wobensmith: Thank you, Michael. Turning to slide 28, the third quarter marked another period of disciplined execution of our Comprehensive Value Strategy, resulting in strong financial results as we generated multi-year high levels of EBITDA and declared a record dividend. We are continuing to realize the significant benefits of our sizable operating leverage, strong balance sheet, and industry-low break-even levels that have enabled Genco to increase its earnings power and dividend capacity. We are operating in a strong rate environment, and asset values have continued to increase, which, together with strong cash flow generation, has contributed to Genco's increasing net asset value. As we look ahead, Genco is well-positioned to continue driving returns through sizable dividends and creating value for shareholders.

This concludes our presentation, and we would now be happy to take your questions.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, we will now conduct the question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Omar Nokta with Clarksons. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Omar Nokta: Thank you. Hi, John, Peter, Michael. Morning. Thanks for the update.

John Wobensmith: Morning.

Omar Nokta: Yeah, so things have been moving quite favorably here in the spot market over the past several quarters. I guess we are going on a year now of elevated rates in the sector. I have maybe two questions, maybe one specifically on the market, then wanted to ask about Genco specifically. We have seen here recently Capes having jumped maybe early back in September, they reached $50,000 a day, kind of eased back a bit, found a floor of $30,000, and they seem to be toggling maybe within this range.

I guess, does that surprise you what we have seen with rates and them being able to establish a floor at this higher level, at least relative to what we have seen over the past several years? How do you think that, what that tells us about the market, and how do you think the setup is as we look at 2027?

John Wobensmith: Yeah. So, I would tell you what that points out is how tightly balanced, particularly the Capesize market is, but really the entire dry bulk market. From September to where we are today, there were mostly weather-related events that affected the iron ore trade, particularly in the southern system in Brazil with a lot of wet weather. So, that definitely brought deliveries down. But Vale, they put out their end-of-the-year guidance, which while was on the low end, it still shows increased iron ore imports on a year-over-year basis. So, our view is that it was fairly weather-related.

There is some fuel issues in terms of being very high, so I think there is an incremental 10 million-15 million tons from small iron ore producers in Brazil that cut back on shipments. But as we see these bunker prices come down, margins are starting to open up again. But it is really, in the end of the day, you look at the growth in the bauxite trade, you look at Simandou that has been ramping up earlier than anticipated, and I think that has really helped establish a floor with the backdrop of a low supply situation on the vessel side.

Omar Nokta: Thanks, John. Yeah, that is really good. And maybe just kind of perhaps Genco-specific, you have been obviously no stranger to acquiring tonnage as you highlighted in your opening comments. You have been doing it episodically really and at your own pace the past several years. You have got plenty of liquidity. And then just wanted to kind of ask as you think about, because you noted asset values continue to rise, what do you think in terms of deploying more capital into the secondhand market? Is there an opportunity there you think, and especially in say the sub-Capesize segments? You have got the nine remaining Supras, they are somewhat older.

How do you think about scaling out of those and maybe using that capital to redeploy perhaps in Ultras, or do you go more top-heavy with the Capes? Any color you are able to give on that?

John Wobensmith: Yeah, sure. I mean, look, you saw what we did early in the year. We divested two older Supras and redeployed that into a modern Capesize, very creative trade. Those are deals that we will do all day long, right? But not always available. It is still, I think, a tight market to find modern Capesize, but they are out there. There was another 2019 that was just sold over the last two days to another owner. So, I still think liquidity is there in terms of ships. When you look at Genco specifically, we are definitely going to continue to execute on the fleet renewal side.

We still have, I would say, a bias towards the larger ships, but the mid-size ships are very important to maintaining cash flows and dividends because of the stable earnings. So, I would look at it as, what is the opportunity at the time, with the bigger picture that we will continue to do fleet renewal.

Omar Nokta: Got it. Thank you, John. I will turn it back.

John Wobensmith: Thank you, Omar.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Liam Burke with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Liam Burke: Thank you. Good morning, John, Peter, Michael.

John Wobensmith: Morning.

Liam Burke: John, you did pay for the last Capesize, and your debt levels are higher, though low by relative standards. Traditionally, you have been paying back debt faster than the normal amortization rates. Do you see any need to do that, especially with asset values so high here, and you may not be able to step in and add assets with the market the way it is?

John Wobensmith: Well, so asset values have gone up. They have gone up, though, across the board, right? Not just the new ships. The older ships have moved up significantly as well. So, there is a trade there that can benefit the fleet renewal side. So, again, we have to have discipline as we are looking at transactions. The debt side, I will let Peter comment on this, but we have a revolving credit facility, so we are actually managing our interest rate risk. You want to fill in?

Peter Allen: Yeah, sure. Thanks, John. Liam, we drew down in Q3 $50 million to fund the balance of the acquisition in August. We look at the revolver availability of 300 and our cash. It is relatively fungible. We do try to manage interest expense. As you saw in Q3, our cash did build to $95 million, so you could see us toggle between the cash and debt pay-downs in Q4. Overall, a lot of financial flexibility, over $400 million or close to $400 million of total liquidity. Our debt balance has increased moderately, but we are still at an 18% loan-to-value position. So, still low leverage and no mandatory debt amortization at the current time.

Liam Burke: Yeah. Your debt levels are very low. I think this question is for Michael. You were talking about iron ore imports in China are up, but if I am looking at year-to-date China steel production, it is down about 3%. How do we reconcile increased iron ore demand with lower production levels?

Michael Orr: Well, hi, Liam. Partially, it is also a reduction in domestic iron ore output. China has had to increase their seaborne imports because of lack of domestic output, which is typically much lower ferrous content. They import much higher ferrous content seaborne imports from places like Brazil and Australia.

Liam Burke: This is a trend that will continue beyond just this year. I mean, this is more of a structural change in iron ore demand for China steel, and it is somewhat less sensitive to production levels.

Michael Orr: Yes, and you can see that they've also been reaching out to Guinea with extremely high ferrous content and sourcing much more from the seaborne market at the expense of its domestic output.

John Wobensmith: Liam, we've also seen growth in some of the, at least right now, smaller areas. Vietnam continues to import higher numbers on the iron ore front. When we look at India, because of the low ferrous content in their iron ore and their large growth on the steel production side, we actually think you could see a scenario over the next few years where India is importing more and more high-quality iron ore.

Liam Burke: Great. Thank you very much.

John Wobensmith: Thanks, Liam.

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